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	<title>Comments on: New Weekly Writer on Walk The Road Less Traveled: Biofeedback Q&amp;A With Josh Hanagarne</title>
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	<description>The Pursuit Of Strength In All Its Forms</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Musselwhite</title>
		<link>http://www.adamtglass.com/2010/02/08/biofeedback-qa-with-josh-hanagarne/comment-page-1/#comment-6828</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Musselwhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE for you guys, especially Adam, Josh, Mike N. &amp; Frankie F.

Okay, after being the biggest skeptic yet on biofeedback I now feel foolish.
There&#039;s experiments and tests I should have done before drawing conclusions
as to the effectiveness of BF concepts.

After Adam and Mike Nelson got me lined out on my main concerns I started
over so to speak. I watched the 3 videos at least 3 times each and took careful
notes and paid close attention to what was actually being said and not what I thought
was being said. BTW, the 3 videos were Sacred Cows Vol. 1&amp;2 and The Big Picture put
out by Frankie Fairies.

instead of trying to falsify (prove wrong) the concept I looked at what it had to offer
based on what was being claimed. Results? I&#039;ve PR&#039;d at certain grip movements that I
have not been able to achieve after years of grip training. For example, several years ago I just flat gave up on 1&quot; V-Bar lifting because I couldn&#039;t get past 200lbs. no matter what. I got 201 lbs. left handed one time and was never able to do it again.  CoC #3 gripper. I&#039;ve been stuck at a little past parallel for years even after following what some of the TOP grip guys were suggesting. Middle Finger Lift. Never got past 100 lbs.

NOW, enter Perpetual Progress! 1&quot; V-Bar = 230 lbs. 30 lb. gain in under 5 weeks

CoC #3 gripper = Less than a quarter inch from shut. 1/4&quot; gain in under 5 weeks.

Middle finger Lift = 125 lbs. Right or Left. 28 lb. gain in under 5 weeks.

These are just max attempts. Reps per set and total sets have went through the roof.

Conclusion? IT WORKS!!! This is the part that I couldn&#039;t get around even though I didn&#039;t understand why it works. Other individuals I tested without telling them the
why&#039;s of what I&#039;m doing produced results also. They were unbiased in everyway. They had never heard of biofeedback, ever.

Now the important part. I would like to apologize to the above mentioned guys right here on this forum for causing such a rucuss and pissing people off. Never good! No one likes to admit they are wrong but I think it will make me a better perosn to admit my mistakes/errors and learn from it and move forward.

Sorry for such a long post but I had to get this off my chest.

My BEST WISHES to everyone!!!

Joe Musselwhite (Mighty Joe)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE for you guys, especially Adam, Josh, Mike N. &amp; Frankie F.</p>
<p>Okay, after being the biggest skeptic yet on biofeedback I now feel foolish.<br />
There&#8217;s experiments and tests I should have done before drawing conclusions<br />
as to the effectiveness of BF concepts.</p>
<p>After Adam and Mike Nelson got me lined out on my main concerns I started<br />
over so to speak. I watched the 3 videos at least 3 times each and took careful<br />
notes and paid close attention to what was actually being said and not what I thought<br />
was being said. BTW, the 3 videos were Sacred Cows Vol. 1&amp;2 and The Big Picture put<br />
out by Frankie Fairies.</p>
<p>instead of trying to falsify (prove wrong) the concept I looked at what it had to offer<br />
based on what was being claimed. Results? I&#8217;ve PR&#8217;d at certain grip movements that I<br />
have not been able to achieve after years of grip training. For example, several years ago I just flat gave up on 1&#8243; V-Bar lifting because I couldn&#8217;t get past 200lbs. no matter what. I got 201 lbs. left handed one time and was never able to do it again.  CoC #3 gripper. I&#8217;ve been stuck at a little past parallel for years even after following what some of the TOP grip guys were suggesting. Middle Finger Lift. Never got past 100 lbs.</p>
<p>NOW, enter Perpetual Progress! 1&#8243; V-Bar = 230 lbs. 30 lb. gain in under 5 weeks</p>
<p>CoC #3 gripper = Less than a quarter inch from shut. 1/4&#8243; gain in under 5 weeks.</p>
<p>Middle finger Lift = 125 lbs. Right or Left. 28 lb. gain in under 5 weeks.</p>
<p>These are just max attempts. Reps per set and total sets have went through the roof.</p>
<p>Conclusion? IT WORKS!!! This is the part that I couldn&#8217;t get around even though I didn&#8217;t understand why it works. Other individuals I tested without telling them the<br />
why&#8217;s of what I&#8217;m doing produced results also. They were unbiased in everyway. They had never heard of biofeedback, ever.</p>
<p>Now the important part. I would like to apologize to the above mentioned guys right here on this forum for causing such a rucuss and pissing people off. Never good! No one likes to admit they are wrong but I think it will make me a better perosn to admit my mistakes/errors and learn from it and move forward.</p>
<p>Sorry for such a long post but I had to get this off my chest.</p>
<p>My BEST WISHES to everyone!!!</p>
<p>Joe Musselwhite (Mighty Joe)</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
		<link>http://www.adamtglass.com/2010/02/08/biofeedback-qa-with-josh-hanagarne/comment-page-1/#comment-6777</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 06:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you! 

Resistance that doesn&#039;t get in our way. I&#039;m still learning to use Biofeedback, I feel I&#039;ve used too much weight up to this day. :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you! </p>
<p>Resistance that doesn&#8217;t get in our way. I&#8217;m still learning to use Biofeedback, I feel I&#8217;ve used too much weight up to this day. :p</p>
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		<title>By: Piers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Piers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 02:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tomas,
I think Dave was just stating that as an example of what he meant by &quot;excess tension&quot;.
Physics-wise, there MUST be tension in your body to counteract the weight. Tension itself is not a no-no. Tension that is not required to move is a no-no.

I don&#039;t think weights need to feel light as a feather, I just think that the movement quality needs to feel high. I started thinking of it less as lifting the weight, more that I am moving through the range of movement and the weight is trying to stop me/throw me off. The more the weight is winning at that goal and altering the movement, the less appropriate that weight may be.
This is just my perception at this point; feel free to disregard if not applicable to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomas,<br />
I think Dave was just stating that as an example of what he meant by &#8220;excess tension&#8221;.<br />
Physics-wise, there MUST be tension in your body to counteract the weight. Tension itself is not a no-no. Tension that is not required to move is a no-no.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think weights need to feel light as a feather, I just think that the movement quality needs to feel high. I started thinking of it less as lifting the weight, more that I am moving through the range of movement and the weight is trying to stop me/throw me off. The more the weight is winning at that goal and altering the movement, the less appropriate that weight may be.<br />
This is just my perception at this point; feel free to disregard if not applicable to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Wragg</title>
		<link>http://www.adamtglass.com/2010/02/08/biofeedback-qa-with-josh-hanagarne/comment-page-1/#comment-6459</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Wragg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For deadlift I usually test a light, medium and heavy... currently that is 60kg, 80kg, 100kg... one of those will test the best (if deadlifts are testing well) then I&#039;ll go blast out some reps.

If medium or heavy tests well then after several sets I may retest a heavier weight and see what happens... if progressively heavier keeps testing well I will most likely set a new max lift PR :)

Your usage may vary, but thats what I am currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For deadlift I usually test a light, medium and heavy&#8230; currently that is 60kg, 80kg, 100kg&#8230; one of those will test the best (if deadlifts are testing well) then I&#8217;ll go blast out some reps.</p>
<p>If medium or heavy tests well then after several sets I may retest a heavier weight and see what happens&#8230; if progressively heavier keeps testing well I will most likely set a new max lift PR <img src='http://www.adamtglass.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Your usage may vary, but thats what I am currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottA</title>
		<link>http://www.adamtglass.com/2010/02/08/biofeedback-qa-with-josh-hanagarne/comment-page-1/#comment-6457</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kris,
Thanks for the reply!  This protocol to me is like playing chess.  10 minutes to learn, a lifetime to master.  Lots of nuances in the fine tuning to your own body and goals.  I do experiment a lot with this, but if I can benefit from someone elses trial and error, why not do it?  What you mention about using the last load that brings improvement makes sense (now).  What that means to me is I&#039;ll be loading up in smaller increments to find that sweet spot for the day.  Driving on....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kris,<br />
Thanks for the reply!  This protocol to me is like playing chess.  10 minutes to learn, a lifetime to master.  Lots of nuances in the fine tuning to your own body and goals.  I do experiment a lot with this, but if I can benefit from someone elses trial and error, why not do it?  What you mention about using the last load that brings improvement makes sense (now).  What that means to me is I&#8217;ll be loading up in smaller increments to find that sweet spot for the day.  Driving on&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottA</title>
		<link>http://www.adamtglass.com/2010/02/08/biofeedback-qa-with-josh-hanagarne/comment-page-1/#comment-6455</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, David,
When you all say &quot;easy&quot; and &quot;effortless&quot;, even though the weight may be heavy or the set may be long, I do have a bit of an idea what you&#039;re saying.  In ETK, on the ROP light days for pressing, Pavel even says that you&#039;re not backing off the weight, just making the reps easy (fewer).  &quot;Heavy but easy&quot;.  I can dig it.

That being said, &quot;easy&quot; comes in a huge range, depending on the perspective.  Lifting 5# over my head with one hand is pretty dang easy, but not likely much benefit.  Going too far the other way, 88# is really hard, though I can get it if I &quot;go after it&quot;.  Backing off just 4# - 8 #, I can do singles or doubles till I run out of time.    Somewhere in between is the right load, depending on how it tests.

Since our body &quot;intuition&quot; is also a source of feedback, &quot;perceived effort (P/E)&quot; would also seem to be an ingredient in how much load, how many reps, etc.  In general, is there a level of perceived effort that we are aiming for?  There is still room for day to day variations depending on our state.  A 7/10 P/E with 80# today might be a 10/10 on some other day if I didn&#039;t get much sleep.  But if I keep trying to find that 7/10 (or whatever number) for any given day, shouldn&#039;t that keep me safely on the path?

Thanks for your willingness to help.  If you have a chance to read my comment from 15-Apr and respond with your thoughts, I&#039;d be very grateful.
Best,  ScottA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, David,<br />
When you all say &#8220;easy&#8221; and &#8220;effortless&#8221;, even though the weight may be heavy or the set may be long, I do have a bit of an idea what you&#8217;re saying.  In ETK, on the ROP light days for pressing, Pavel even says that you&#8217;re not backing off the weight, just making the reps easy (fewer).  &#8220;Heavy but easy&#8221;.  I can dig it.</p>
<p>That being said, &#8220;easy&#8221; comes in a huge range, depending on the perspective.  Lifting 5# over my head with one hand is pretty dang easy, but not likely much benefit.  Going too far the other way, 88# is really hard, though I can get it if I &#8220;go after it&#8221;.  Backing off just 4# &#8211; 8 #, I can do singles or doubles till I run out of time.    Somewhere in between is the right load, depending on how it tests.</p>
<p>Since our body &#8220;intuition&#8221; is also a source of feedback, &#8220;perceived effort (P/E)&#8221; would also seem to be an ingredient in how much load, how many reps, etc.  In general, is there a level of perceived effort that we are aiming for?  There is still room for day to day variations depending on our state.  A 7/10 P/E with 80# today might be a 10/10 on some other day if I didn&#8217;t get much sleep.  But if I keep trying to find that 7/10 (or whatever number) for any given day, shouldn&#8217;t that keep me safely on the path?</p>
<p>Thanks for your willingness to help.  If you have a chance to read my comment from 15-Apr and respond with your thoughts, I&#8217;d be very grateful.<br />
Best,  ScottA</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if you misunderstood me, but I didn&#039;t mean by &quot;right weight&quot; the weight used by the right arm, but the *correct* weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you misunderstood me, but I didn&#8217;t mean by &#8220;right weight&#8221; the weight used by the right arm, but the *correct* weight.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 05:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tomas,

Heavy is still heavy.  Excess tension is what we want to avoid.  When you&#039;re pressing with your right, there is no reason why your left arm needs to be at maximum tension.

If it tests well, use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomas,</p>
<p>Heavy is still heavy.  Excess tension is what we want to avoid.  When you&#8217;re pressing with your right, there is no reason why your left arm needs to be at maximum tension.</p>
<p>If it tests well, use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 04:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, when picking the right weight, should it be light like a feather? I&#039;ve found out that heavier weights test well, too. But tension is a no-no, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, when picking the right weight, should it be light like a feather? I&#8217;ve found out that heavier weights test well, too. But tension is a no-no, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you gentlemen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you gentlemen.</p>
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